Summary: An interview with Mr. Sea regarding New World Order plans for the U.S. and its citizens.
[NOTE: Mr. Sea is out of the military now, and his real name is Al Cuppett--His ministry now is going across the nation telling people of this Coming Holocaust]
In the spring of 1997, Senior Editor, Professor Ian Stewart, met with "Mr.Sea" (real name known but withheld) to discuss what he has learned first-hand about the coming persecution at the hands of the New World Order operatives.
With a seven-inch thick portfolio filled with photographs, news articles, correspondence, etc., Mr. Sea revealed disturbing information about New World Order efforts to destroy and enslave America.
The following are some of Mr. Sea's comments. But first, let's take a look at the man who made the comments.
Mr. Sea, [Alan Cuppett] a committed Christian, is a former inspector for the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Department of Defense, with 31years of federal service-22in the military, nine with the Department of Defense, including two years with the Air Staff. He's a holder of the Bronze Star, the Purple Heart, the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, three awards of the Joint Service Medal, all of the Vietnamese awards, as well as the Joint Meritorious Unit Medal.
When he retired a few years ago, he was awarded the Secretary of Defense Civilian Service Medal. He's been around the world-to 31 countries on four continents, and speaks five languages.
Mr. Sea spoke of the coming American Holocaust-of the Government's plans for dealing with the non-New World Orderites. He spoke of the infrastructure that has already been set up to incarcerate and execute Americans, and the locations of the facilities that will be used for these purposes-all with photographs, leaving little to the imagination.
"The infrastructure is set up. There are at least 130 concentration camps-quietly modified facilities which have sprung up and continue to spring up across the country, seemingly devoid of activity, yet requiring strange accouterments such as barbed wire-topped fencing (with the tops turned inward) and helicopter wind socks. Most have good logistical support ability, with major highways and railroad transport facilities adjacent to the sites.
"These facilities, many in remote areas across our country, are set up to become concentration/detention camps, complete with gas chambers, for resisters and dissidents. Generally speaking, they're set up for dissenters who will not go along with the New World Order. The 'resisters' are gun owners who refuse to give up their weapons; the 'dissidents' are Christians, Patriots and Constitutionalists. These camps are set up. I've seen many of them.
"On August 6, 1994, I toured the Amtrak Railcar Repair Facility at Beech Grove See Link, Indianapolis, Indiana. There are at least ten maintenance barns at this facility, covering 129 acres, with two separate fences with the tops leaning inward. The windows of several buildings have been bricked up.
Hence, you have three levels of security for Amtrak repair barns! "There are three helicopter 25-knot aviation wind socks (which aren't the correct ones to use for chemical spills which require 10-knot wind socks).
There are high security NSA-style people turnstiles, and high intensity/security lighting for 24-hour operation. The box car (gas chamber) building fence is marked with special 'RED/BLUE Zone' signs [visible in the photo]. This corresponds to the 'mission' of the RED/BLUE Lists which surfaced in June and July of 1996.
"Under martial law, this will become a death camp. They're only going to handle category one and two (RED and BLUE) people there. This box car facility will be used for execution.
"One of the barns is large enough to put four box cars into. There are powered vents on the top of the barn to vent the gas out of the building after the box cars have been fumigated. All of the buildings have newly installed six-inch gas pipes and furnaces installed in all 'railroad barns.'
"Since the photo [below] was taken in August 1994, FEMA has allocated $6 million to make the walls and roofs of the buildings 'airtight' (see article below). Under martial law, this facility could be immediately used as an SS-style 'termination' gas chamber.
"On January 27, 1995, The Indianapolis News ran an article titled, 'Amtrak Lays off 212 at Beech Grove: 170 Lose Jobs at Maintenance Center Today.' Why perform $6 million worth of renovations, and then lay off 212 people?
Because the people doing the final executions will not be Americans. Thus, the 'slots' of the 212 will be filled with non-Americans.
"They'll hire foreigners for this 'cappo' task. Cappo ('chief' in Italian) was the title of the trustee prisoners who actually killed many Jews for the SS butchers at Dachau, and at other Nazi crematoria across Europe.
"The news article also said, ' . . . hopes the yard may be able to solicit work repairing private train cars, and perhaps subway cars from Washington, DC, or other urban areas.' The repairing of private trains is a dead giveaway to death cars!
"The article went on to say, 'Late last year, Congress ordered Amtrak to spend at least $5.9 million patching holes in the roof and fixing masonry on the walls of the giant machine sheds at Beech Grove.' These buildings have been 'sealed.' They're airtight. The facility is constructed to allow gas to be blown into all the buildings via the newly installed, two-story, hot air heating furnaces."
Next, Mr. Sea elaborated on the two categories-the RED and BLUE Lists-and what they mean: "The RED List is for pick-up and execution before unobtrusive preparations for martial law are initiated. The BLUE List is also for execution, but at a later date-within six weeks of martial law declaration. There are no 're-education' plans for either category-just execution.
"When you get picked up on a RED pick-up, they'll take you from your home at night-probably around 4 a.m.-and put you in a black van, then drive you to a helicopter waiting to fly you to an intermediate point. There, you'll be loaded onto a big 64-passenger CH-47 Chinook helicopter-all black, unmarked and illegally operating under the Treaty on Open Skies.
"Then they'll fly you to one of 38 cities where you'll board a 747, 737, or 727. "You may be taken straight to a temporary detention facility. When you're RED listed, you'll be taken to a red camp. Then you'll be executed.
"At some point, martial law will be declared. (Martial law is when the writ of Habeas Corpus-to have a trial by jury-is suspended. Instead, of going to the judge, you go straight to jail for a limited time,) I suspect there will be a major outage, or some other crisis which will be the reason to declare martial law. At this point, the BLUE listed people will be picked up. At that time, the country will be regionalized into ten regions, which are already designated by FEMA.
"Be advised that it has been proven (in Wyoming and at least one other location) that the black choppers have state-of-the-art radio (RF) frequency wideband jammers, and can jam cell phones and CBs while they're executing black operations missions (i.e., in your area). This means that your cell phone could be jammed just before and/or during any action against you.
"In June of 1996, an FBI agent got hold of the Region Three BLUE List (from a CIA agent), and found his own name on it, and those of several others he knew in Virginia. The Regional BLUE List stated that the names on the BLUE List would be picked up 'within six weeks of the actual martial law declaration.'
"This parallels the Nazi RED/BLUE List policy almost to the letter. The parallel Nazi plan was published by Heinz Hohne in his 1966 book, The Story of the Nazi SS: The Order of the Death's Head. (I've read this book and sent it to Jack McLamb.)
"People say, 'It won't work.' But it will work if the 300,000 Soviet troops which are ALREADY HERE can get the guns. The name of the game is to blackball the people to get the guns . . . make the militia look bad, make guns look bad, make everybody give up their guns. Once they get your gun, they've got you, UNLESS you've got the angel of the Lord at your door. If you've got the angel of the Lord out there protecting you, it's another story.
"The ones doing all of this are operating out of the highest places in the Federal Government. They're cooperating with 'spirit guides and mediums' and using astrology and numerology. The spirit guides are telling them what to do, and the entire thing is being orchestrated at the highest spiritual levels. Every base has been covered. They've thought of everything.
"If you notice, they often do things on the 13th of the month. Mr. Clinton does a lot of things on the 13th. On September 13, 1993, the brokered Israeli-PLO peace accord was signed. He waited 14 days, until September 13, 1994 to sign the Crime Bill. On June 13, 1995, he stated he'd veto the national debt authorization ceiling. On November 13, he did veto it. On January 13, 1996, he made a speech to Bosnia.
"Amos 3:7 says that God doesn't do anything without first revealing His secrets to His servants the prophets. God is giving His people warnings. There are people who go to prophecy conferences to see when the rapture is going to take place and listen to all the peaceful prophets prophesying good news and glad tidings. But if we'll listen to God, He is warning us of the times that are coming. We need to prepare.
"There will be an interim of probably just days from the time they launch the RED List, to the declaration of martial law when they'll start coming after those on the BLUE List. It'll work the same way it did with the Nazis who had a list of people to pick up, on June 30, 1934, before they declared their 'mobilization.'
"It's the same blueprint being used because it's the same spirit leading the Fourth Reich as led the Third Reich. In Germany, they used trains, here it will be helicopters and 747s.
"When Hitler was villainizing the Jews, he hired thugs and dressed them in black uniforms (our whole country is not going to black uniforms). He was building concentration camps and setting up a transport system. In this country, they're now in the process of villainizing Christians, Patriots, Constitutionalists, and outspoken talk-show hosts, etc.
"Who will be doing the actual picking up? Foreign 'cops' (United Nations Internal Security Forces). Over 30 foreign military bases under the United Nations flag are already set up in the US., all with the approval of special appointees in high Federal positions. These bases are already manned with over ONE MILLION troops from Russia, Poland, Germany, Belgium, Turkey, Great Britain, Nicaragua, and Asian countries.
"Why are they here? Because unlike our own troops-many of which along with the Guard and Reserve of 24 states are being deployed overseas-will have no qualms about firing on U.S. citizens when the time comes.
"There are more than 2,000 Russian tanks, military trucks and chemical warfare vehicles just outside Gulfport, Mississippi. They began arriving in January of 1994.
"There are 180 foreign troops at Fort Reilly which was confirmed to me by a Brigadier General. There are 300 who came into the Birmingham, Alabama airport on a big white Russian cargo plane on December 13, 1995.
"As of 1995, there were 10,000 plus foreign troops at Fort Chafee, Arkansas reportedly making preparations for 20,000 'detainees.'
"Also in 1995 at Fort Polk, Louisiana (U.S. Army Post), Russian and Eastern European troops were deployed under the U.N. flag. [When questioned about this, the legislative aide of the congressman who resides over Fort Polk, stated, "Yes, they were there undertaking broad, joint training exercises.
And, yes, the U.N. flag was flying. There may still be some there today."]
"At the Aberdeen Proving Grounds, there are many Russian tanks. One of the NCOs told his father that he'd been maintaining them.
"This is going on all over the country. German troops are known to be at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, and Fort Hood, Texas. Chinese troops are known to be at the Long Beach Naval Station in California.
"There's not going to be some future event when the invading troops are going to show up. They're already here! When martial law is implemented, these foreign U.N. troops will be policing our country, carrying out the plans of the New World Order.
"God is warning His people. There isn't much time before these events begin to take place. God's people need to prepare themselves in every way possible. It's not a time for fear. It's a time for prayer, preparation and sharing our faith with a lost world.
"We must always remember Ephesians 6:12 which states: 'For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.'"
A transcript from OF, BY & FOR THE PEOPLE
GMN Ed. Note: We have no way to verify this story, but we can say that we began seeing these reports 20 years ago, and they are coming in much more closely together now, and are more detailed and more insistent. We know, of course, the New World Order crowd is up to no good. As the saying goes, forewarned is forearmed. As watchmen of Israel, we feel it is our duty to pass these reports on, no matter how unpleasant they are.
The following is the edited transcript of the January 22, 1996, airing of Blueprint for Survival, with host Steven Quayle. Steve's guest was "Mr. C.," a former military officer working as an inspector for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Mr. C. has personally inspected many of the mysterious military sites that are being erected around -our country. His experiences, insights, and warnings are a sobering wake-up call for those of us who haven't seriously undertaken our required physical preparations to defend ourselves against the coming dark age, under "The New World Order." Read and heed.
SQ: My guest tonight is "Mr. C," a former inspector for the Pentagon's Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Mr. C, give us a little background on yourself. How many years were you in the military and what are some of the things you did as you traveled around the world for the U.S. Government?
Mr. C: I was in the military for 22 years, and later went to work inside the government at one of the highest levels. I am a holder of the Bronze Star, the Purple Heart, the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, three awards of the Joint service Medal, all the Vietnamese awards, as well as the Joint Meritorious Unit Medal. When I retired a couple of years ago, as the equivalent of a Field Grade Officer, I was awarded the Secretary of Defense Civilian Service Medal. I've been around world in thirty-seven different countries, have spent more than fifteen years overseas, and can con verse in five languages. The infrastructure is set up.
The infrastructure is set up. They have concentration camps set up for resisters and dissidents. The "resisters" are those gun owners who refuse to give up their weapons, and the "dissidents" are the Christians, Patriots and Constitutionalists. These camps are set up, and I have seen them.
The 'RESISTERS' are those gun owners who refuse to give up their weapons, and the 'DISSIDENTS' are the Christians, Patriots, and Constitutionalists.
It's not so much what I learned while I was in the government, but rather my understanding of govern- ment, as to how it operates, i.e., the budget system, etc., and being able to put bits and pieces together. The average person doesn't know how the government operates; but if you know how it operates, you can see that most of what they are doing today is absolutely unconstitutional.
SQ: ladies and gentlemen, I've asked Mr. C to deal specifically with the prison camps and the government's plans for dealing with the non-New World Orderites: Christians, Patriots, Constitutionalists, or whatever you call yourselves.
Feds & Police Not Exempt
Mr. C: First of all, the New World Order intends to double-cross the Federal Government people. All of you federal folks out there who are listening, I want you to know that I was a Federal official for thirty-one years. They will double-cross you. Under the New World Order plans, no American will be allowed to have weapons, and no American will be in any position of authority whatsoever. When you have finished your work for them, they will double-cross you. Be advised of that and understand it.
I briefed an FBI office on this, and one of the younger FBI fellows asked, "Do you mean to tell me that they are going to replace us with foreign cops?" That's right, I told him. Then he asked me for a copy of the Vampire Killer 2000 book.
I have briefed several other VIPs, and one State Police Commander asked me a final pertinent question: "What are they going to do with us American policemen?" I told him they intend to take his gun away from him and put him in the same prisons they'll be putting the rest of us into.
With that prelude, I will now go into the infrastructure that has been set up to incarcerate and execute Americans, and the locations used for these purposes. I have seen these facilities myself and have taken pictures of them. I have traveled about a hundred thousand miles around the country over the past two years, taking pictures. I can piece these things together. The average person will have a piece of the puzzle, but he won't be able to piece it together, unless someone is able to explain it and show it to him. There are people listening who are new to all of this, but they will be able to say, "Wow, I saw one of those down the road!" or, "Hey, I saw that happening!" And their own experiences are the pieces that they have to the puzzle. For example, I was briefing a Chief of Staff to a Two-Star General, and I told him during the briefing that he would get a piece of the puzzle.
When I got about one-third of the way into my briefing, he said, 'You know, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has taken over the Army Reserves." I told him, "yes, that's part of the puzzle, and it is unconstitutional for them to do that. A bureaucracy cannot control military forces."
There are two massive prisons at Camp Buckner, North Carolina, built side-by-side. One was built earlier, and the other was built only last year. The thing is about a half-mile square, is barb-wired, and has a helicopter control tower in the middle of it. (They plan to use helicopters for this whole strike force.)
Every military base has a stock-ade. At Seymour Johnson AFB you will find an empty, barb-wired Federal prison camp. There is another prison camp in Virginia, not too far from Warrington.
Everything that is being done in places like Bosnia or Somalia is going to happen here as well. Transfer Points. They have also set up what I would refer to as "transfer points." They have rail, ground and road transfer points. If you know what to look for, you can see them. For example, they are setting up "berms" alongside the roads, which are used to hide the choppers as they land. there is a berm set up at the prison facility near Warrington, Virginia, and directly across from it is a loading dock that is becoming overgrown with weeds. But when it is time to use them, the weeds and growth will shield everything but the rotor blades of the choppers from the road -- no one will be able to see what the choppers are unloading. Across the road is a railroad track, and across from the railroad track is the quarry. About a mile from there is the jail. If you know what to look for, you can spot them.
There is a death camp at Beech Grove, in the southeast quadrant of Indianapolis. There are ten maintenance barns at the Amtrak repair facility, that have received so much attention from Linda Thompson and Mark Koernke, that they have set up an open house tour of the place on the first Saturday of every month. You've got to know what you're looking for, if you get to go through the tour as I did. (An Amtrak guard told me that the guards there have even been issued black uniforms. He had his in his locker.) It is a 129-acre facility with fences on the outside, with the tops leaning inward.
The second fence on the inside also has the fence tops leaning in. The windows of the buildings have been bricked up. Hence, you have three levels of security, for an Amtrak repair barn! There are three 25-knot helicopter wind socks (which are not the correct ones to use for chemical spills; you use 10-knot wind socks for chemical spills). These buildings, of this old 1910 facility, have had $6 million in repairs and upgrades. There are high security turnstiles, high security lighting, and signs which mark red and blue zones (we'll discuss the colors shortly). One of the barns is large enough to put four boxcars into, and there are vents on the top of the barn.
They're only going to handle category 1 and 2 (red and blue) people there; there will be no "green" people handled. This facility will be used for execution and maximum security.
That facility exists, and there are others around the country. Primarily you have to look for facilities with new fences (Ed. Note: particularly fences with barbed-wire tops that lean inward).
Prison Transfer Centers
SQ: Let's talk about the prison transfer centers. Obviously there is one at Oklahoma City, one at Sea-Tac (Seattle-Tacoma), etc.
Mr. C: First of all, there are helicopter pick-up-points. If you'll notice, some of the rest stops on the Interstate Highways have been barricaded; those are set up for a different purpose. Here, you must have an operational mindset in order to understand what they are doing. Look for new fencing, hightech equipment, squad car gates, high-tech lights, etc. There are intermediate points, such as airports, with brand new metal fences around them, and buildings located down into woods, etc., where you can't see what they will be doing.
I've talked to a General Officer who has been to Oklahoma City and seen the Federal Transfer Facility there. I have pictures of it and have put the pieces together. They were forced, in April, 1995, to declare the facility, and they held an open house on April 4. On April 7, they call in on the cellular system and get the information they need; they do not have to call in with their chopped accents to the FAA Flight Service Station to get the weather forecast. Just last year, they banned all scanners from the cellular phone frequencies. You can understand what they are doing here; you can't hear the chopper pilots calling in to the AWOS towers.
The Category I "red" list includes those people who are to be picked up before unobtrusive preparations for martial law have taken place. They've got to pick off the leaders up front. You will be taken from your house, sneaked past the Sheriff's Department and the State Police, and taken to the cul-de-sac. From there you will be flown to the intermediate point, where you are loaded onto a big 64-passenger C-47 Chinook helicopter, all black, unmarked and illegally operating under the Treaty on Open Skies. Then they will fly you to one of the aforementioned 38 cities, where you will board one of those twelve 747s (or a 737, or a 727).
I know a General Officer who flew on one of these 727s, and it was flown by FEMA pilots. They are using our own people to pull this thing off. They have to use some of our own people now, because they can't get enough foreigners into position.
You may be taken straight to a camp -- you may not go to the Federal Transfer Center. When you are picked up on a "red" pickup, you will stay on the red route: you will not be taken off the red route. When you are red listed, you will be taken to a red camp. I'm not exactly sure whether they go all the way to Oklahoma City and then back to a death chamber, but you will be executed. There are no re-education plans for people on the red lists.
At some point along the line, martial law will be declared. Then the blue lists will be picked up. The blue lists comprise those people who are maximum security risk, and who might be "re-educated."
The bunch that is doing all of this is operating out of the highest places in the Capitol of the United States. Every base has been covered. They have thought of everything. They've hardened the electrical company power facilities. If you go to York, South Carolina, you'll see that the fence tops are turned inward at the York, SC, Electrical Power Company yard. If someone is going to steal telephone poles, you would think that they would turn the fence tops outward. Any big fence you see that has been built recently is a possible detention/detainment facility, and they can execute there.. They probably have some sort of accountability program in order to insure that the right people are knocked off.
SQ: I'd like to make a statement here, before Mr. C. continues. I'm not here to entertain or to be a "talk radio personality." I'm here for one reason; and that is because the Living God has instructed me to shout it from the roof-tops. God is giving His people warnings. There are those people who want to go to prophecy conferences to see when the rapture is going to come (which I believe is not going to come), and hear all the peaceful prophets prophesying good news and glad tidings. I believe that Mr. C, who is also very much a man of God, has the same charge by the Holy Ghost: to warn you people out there, Christian and non-Christian alike, how this is going to happen. God doesn't do anything without revealing His secrets to His servants.
Mr. C: Amos 3:7; that's right! Sometime back, around 3:00 in the morning, He said to me, "If you will call upon me, I will show you great and wonderful things that thou knowest not." I said, "Okay Lord, let me see what they are."
Sound the Warning
Anyway, if you suspect that you may be on the red list, if you have had black helicopters over your house, or if you've been involved in these kinds of things, you need to have some form of communications, such as a cellular telephone. When they pull this thing off, they will have a limited time to pick up people.
They have routes to run.
However, they can't get everyone at the same time, so you need to have a recall roster, and It should be set up like a pyramid scheme. In other words, if you experience an attack on your place and you can somehow get on the phone you may still perish, but at least you can get the word out to someone down the road.
Once they declare martial law you'll know it's on, but there are guys who won't get any advance knowledge.
SQ: In your opinion, how long will it take from the time they launch the red list to the declaration of martial law? Will it be hours or days?
Mr. C: Probably days. I have no providential guidance on the time interim, but there will be a time in time.
SQ: One thing that the listener needs to see is that there is not going to be some future event where the invading troops are going to show up - they're already strategically placed here! Everything that the supercomputers can add to the equation has already been added in. They've already determined how many people are going to die, on. Both sides. They've got it all figured out. They've got every stone covered - with the exception of the Rock that was cut out without human hands.
CALLER: Well, what chance do you two guys think you've got when all of this comes down?
SQ: I can put my hands in my pocket and thank God that He made me a man. I can yell out at the top of my lungs in prayer that God's people will rise up. I may not have much of a chance, but I'll go down in history as someone who tried.
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